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Людмила Ансельм
It’s clear… Vadim chose you to be the lead, Ranevskaia.
ANNA. Are you implying that actresses who get leading roles are the lovers of the directors?
KNIPPER: It’s in theater’s traditions…
ANNA: It’s rumored that you had a lover too? Stanislavski?
KNIPPER: Nemirovich…
ANNA: And Chekhov? He knew about… about this tradition?
KNIPPER: I believe knew. He wasn’t naïve about life.
ANNA: How did you convince him to marry you?
KNIPPER: Do you think it would be useful for you?
ANNA: May be…
KNIPPER: Anna, I will tell you my story… but it’s a long story… you have to be patient… sip some tea… (
Marriage became the only honorable thing for me! Our new theatre needs in own dramaturg and Nemirovich decided that it would be best if I married Chekhov…That, I thought I could do… I made many trips to Yalta. Then, after two years, I suddenly refused to go. I wrote him, “You have such a sensitive soul. You should understand why I can’t come any more.” After some to-ing and fro-ing, he finally proposed. (
ANNA: After your marriage you were happy?
KNIPPER: I didn’t know that greater problems had just begun…
ANNA: What kind problems?
KNIPPER: Different. You see Anton’s sister Masha was against our marriage, her mother too…
ANNA: Why do you suppose?
KNIPPER: I think they were afraid that Anton would go to Moscow, where his health would quickly become worse…
ANNA: Wasn’t Chekhov very jealous of you? I don’t understand.
KNIPPER: Our relations were very strange… I didn’t understand Anton either… Nobody could understand us… He once said: “A wife is like the moon. You appreciate her more when you don’t have to see her every night”…(
ANNA: Not happy, to have a child with Chekhov?
KNIPPER: Dearie! It’s not so easy to get pregnant with him living in Yalta and me in Moscow…(
ANNA: You became pregnant? But you don’t have any children…
KNIPPER: Oh, it’s another story…
ANNA: Please tell me… I’m very curious…
KNIPPER: It’s a long story too…
ANNA: Please go on..
KNIPPER: Anton and I didn’t see each other for about four months. It was winter. Nemirovich finally gave me permission to go to Yalta. Complete solitude for a week. Then… after a month back in Moscow I was on the operating table… (
I wrote Anton that I had a miscarriage. He didn’t believe me. Anton found out from the surgeon and that the embryo had not developed in my womb but in a fallopian tube. And– that I’d been at least eight weeks pregnant!
ANNA: Why didn’t you write Anton the truth?
KNIPPER: Why upset him? Eight weeks earlier I had been in Moscow! Not Yalta.
ANNA: Ah! Your quick trip in the middle of the theater season! (
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KNIPPER: Anna, what’s the matter?
ANNA: Why didn’t you tell Anton the truth about your pregnancy?
KNIPPER: I didn’t want to upset him… Both Anton and I wanted a child…